Showing posts with label ~NS~. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ~NS~. Show all posts
Saturday, 29 September 2018
Responses to ~NS~ Follow Up Article
I got in touch with Grombrindal, Pink Camo and Myr about the follow up article on ~NS~ leaving CDS.
Pink Camo has not yet given comment but Myr did respond in the comments of the article:
'NS was without my leadership for awhile, this lead to misunderstandings and issues. No need to drag it out. While I personally have no beef with Ubi I would not have invited him to NS had I been there knowing the history he had with many former ptory players and then this whole latest explosion wouldn't have happened. When I have had time to work things out with Grom I will comment on the future of NS but until then I have no further comments. ~ Myr'
Grombrindal also responded to my request for comment, saying the following:
I am not entirely sure what to comment on since it contains a flood of little facts interwoven with lies and..erm...alternative interpretation. I am particularly confounded by the line about Gijak being loyal to Yuki. Had I known that, I would have cracked down on it much, much earlier (big bully as I apparently am). Gijak was in no way singled out after the war, and received the same grace period IGM all pTory members did (he did indeed respond in a hotheaded fashion, but I have no intent of dragging this up to play the man). I approved NS as an acceptable alliance for pTory members to members to join after the war, but it was pitched to me by Myr´s alt (then a loyal member of Tcol) as an alliance loyal to, and working toward, Tcol´s and the CDSs goals. The argument that pursuaded me was her insistence that these members were disgruntled not with Tcol, but with pTory leadership. If they had pitched NS as a refugee camp for pTory loyalists, anyone with a minimal knowledge of Illy politics can grasp that I would never have gone along with their revival as part of the CDS.
Regards,
Grom
Grombrindal's alt, Niccolò Minionvelli, has been invited to ~NS~ by Myr to help with discussing the options for ~NS~ players.
Author: Eowan
Monday, 24 September 2018
~NS~ / CDS Follow Up
After I published the article on ~NS~ leaving CDS, I received IGMs from Gijak Kafak which can be found here. Due to their length, importance and the fact that they deal not only with ~NS~ leaving CDS but other things as well, I have decided to publish them as a part of a separate article rather than an update added to the end of the previous article.
There are four IGMs and I shall give a description of their contents in each case. They detail a lot of the background to what caused ~NS~ to leave CDS, saying that much of what has been going on within ~NS~ has been at the orders of TCol.
The first IGM chain came with the subject about the spy' and it started with Pride of ~NS~ discussing his suspicions of who had leaked information to me previously in an IGM to Gijak Kafak.
However, it soon moved on to Gijak Kafak explaining a lot of the background to ~NS~ leaving CDS amongst other things.
The explanation began with Gijak Kafak describing an incident with Briann where Briann had gone 'off on a tangent about wanting to siege everyone in kesh that was not green on the map' which went against the order set out by the leadership of ~NS~. Gijak lost his cool with Briann who then 'went crying to Zen and Grom' about his treatment of Briann. Apparently Briann then doctored IGMs to make Gijak look bad.
He then went on to mention how TCol started to pull large members from ~NS~, citing Twitch as an example saying 'Twitch was the first with the lie he wanted to war. ( If Twitch wanted to war then why did he run from the war presented to him from SIN[...]). '
At the same time, Grombrindal sent Pink Camo to ~NS~ with Gijak claiming in the IGMs that it was an attempt to take direct control of ~NS~.
He goes on to describe arguments between him and Pink, the first of which was relating to members of BSH, nCrow and TCol settling in Keshalia which had been promised to ~NS~.
However, this argument does not seem to be what truly set events in motion that led to ~NS~ leaving CDS. It seems that a large part of the reason why ~NS~ left CDS was that Ubiquitous Feral, a returning player who was in pTory leadership during the first TCol/pTory war, was invited to ~NS~.
Gijak Kafak was in pTory during the events of the first war and stated the following:
"The next thing was to bring Ubi into NS. Ubi is a coward and trouble maker. He screwed Yuki over in Ptory, got everyone except a loyal few turned against her. Grom with all his pompous attitude that he is fair and never rude, is bullshit. I was the most outspoken on what was done to Yuki. So I was chosen as the scapegoat. Grom sent me an igm stating I had to move from Kesh or they was going to raze me. I went off and in rage typed most of the igm wrong. I tend to do that when I'm not thinking clearly. I immediately had incoming military attacks and diplo attacks to all 3 of my under 3k pop towns. My smallest town was only 6 or 7 hundred (so much for Tcol's word they do not attack small players). I am the type of person I don't bring my troubles to others. I started igm'ing friend to thieve me to keep Tcol's thieves from getting my stockpile. Myr was the first to respond. During this with all the attacks and diplos coming in Ubi sent a alliance wide igm stating anyone who sent help or tried to defend me would suffer the same fate I am receiving. Then he kicked me from Ptory. Myr took me in under force into NS, and here I am fixing to be under threat again by Tcol. LOL. There are other here in NS that Ubi screwed over and treated like shit. Grom and Zen knew this so they brought him into NS with the response that we were being childish by not accepting Ubi. When I press further that it was bs I got an igm from Pink that stated back them Ubi was following Grom and Zens orders and that we had no reason to hold a grudge to Ubi. So Tcol picked the player that supported Yuki the most and sentenced him death to make the rest become sheeple and bow to their demands and used Ubi to do it,"
Note: I have edited this to clear up typos amongst other things. The original text can be found in the full log of the IGMs.
Gijak then compared his situation now to that of Ubiquitous' during the pTory/TCol war, saying he was just being used as a scapegoat in the clearing of Keshalia. He felt like Grombrindal had thrown him under the bus when Grombrindal had claimed he had no knowledge of ~NS~'s activities.
During this time, Myr apparently got into an argument with Grombrindal and Zenorra about ~NS~ being used as a puppet alliance. This then left to Pink leaving ~NS~ and returning to DSA, 'since she had accomplished what she came here for ,,, to tear us apart'.
Gijak finished his lengthy paragraph by saying 'I didn't want to clear small players . I was truly more comfortable dealing with the larger players that could defend themselves. But as it was I was following orders. I was again like Ubi made the face of the wrong doing and threw under the bus when there was complaints Tcol denied knowledge.'
The final IGM in the chain was the one addressed to me. In it, Gijak explained another example of TCol apparently interfering in ~NS~ business with regards to Urika leaving ~NS~.
'Urika left NS started an alliance and started moving towns. Within 8 hrs of leaving Grom Igm'd him and said move now or die since you left ns. But no Grom isnt a bully. I will send you Groms igm to urika i think it will be easy to find. Later on today. So urika came back to NS and quit. but no there is noone being a bully.'
The next two IGMs, with the titles 'Keshalia' and 'Ubiquitous Feral. has accepted' contain discussions that Gijak referenced in the first IGM. Keshalia relates to Urika leaving ~NS~ while Ubiquitous Feral. has accepted' relates to Ubiquitous Feral joining ~NS~.
The final IGM, titled 'One More thing.' was a single IGM addressed solely to me. It said the following:
'As far as land claims go. It was origanally pro-claimed land claims were for the BL, it was a unwrittten agreement. Land Claims in Elgea are wrong. The game spawns people extremely close to Tcols claim. The only way to enforce the claim is to bully everyone out. See the way it is , Tcol and the puppets can only start with the little ones. BSH is the likly choice for the new puppet Kesh bullies as they are moving in at a rapid pace. They will not attack the larger ones, hell they will not even talk to the larger ones. So hopefully soon there will be a revolt on this whole land claim issue. If there isnt then the entire game is as risk, because other bully idiots will get the idea that they can claim, eventually everyone will be forced into alliance they hate or be killed, where is the fun in that. LC in elgea should be banned and not allowed, only the devs can change and fix that, otherwise as it is the game will be doomed, as no one will want to play being forced to play someonelses way.'
This string of IGMs seriously alter the narrative around ~NS~'s recent actions. I recommend those who are interested to read the originals as due to their length, many details have been omitted here.
If anyone from TCol leadership, or indeed anyone from any high ranking position within CDS or ~NS~, would like to add further comment to this, IGM me and I will publish it.
Author: Eowan
Labels:
~NS~,
CDS,
Gijak Kafak,
Grombrindal,
Myr,
Pink Camo,
TCol
Friday, 21 September 2018
~NS~ leaves CDS
The following mass mail was sent to me by an anonymous source in ~NS~:
Hello Squires,
I know I haven't been around much the past few months but I have been around on and off behind the scenes. Those of you who have been here a while may remember that NS was revived to give a home to members of pTory who were in Keshalia and didn't want to move. I made an arrangement with tCol to allow us to stay here. Unfortunately that arrangement is no longer working out.
We are still working on the details but NS will soon withdraw from Keshalia. Here are your options:
- Join a TCol approved alliance or TCol itself if you are ready for war.
- Wait and see what alliance will replace NS as guardian of Keshalia and join that clan.
- Move out of Keshalia.
Take your time and think over your options, ask questions. Once you have decided on your path I will be happy to help you get there. For those that chose to move we will work on an exodus schedule that you're comfortable with.
Remember, this is just a game so make the choice that will ensure you have a good time in the game.
For those who will be departing us, it has been an honor to play with you and I wish you all the best.
Take care,
Myr
It should be noted that I have redacted a sentence from this due to personal information being shared that I felt was not my place to publish.
The IGM was sent on the 19th of September.
~NS~ has lost just over 25% of its members since the around the 11th when membership peaked at just over 40. It now stands at 30.
Notable leavers include ryder, who has abandoned both his main and Ice Man, and also Pink Camo who has returned to DSA.
It is not clear yet whether these players leaving is related to the events that caused ~NS~ to split from CDS.
I also have not been made aware of whether ~NS~ has any plans for where they will relocate to currently.
When I reached out to Grombrindal, leader of TCol, he said the following:
I cannot comment. I want to ensure this divorce takes place as smoothly as possible, and sharing my grievances with the press would not further that goal.
Myr has not responded to my request for a comment though Thorin Oakenshield has told me to 'Fuck off'
If and when I receive any further information on this, I will post an update here.
Author: Eowan
Saturday, 11 August 2018
YOrk Sieged Out of Keshalia for Defending His Kills /// ~NS~ Purging Keshalia
The situation started when Briann noticed a kill near his city. He claims to have scouted it but despite significant investigation, no scout report has been sent to me detailing this. He then sent an army to the kill to occupy it.
YOrk, who had intended to harvest the kill, had harvesters killed by this army. Again, no evidence has been supplied by ~NS~ who claim that YOrk sent the harvesters after the army landed. YOrk then cleared the square of Briann's troops.
This led to retaliation from Briann in the form of diplos and demands from Gijak Kafak for '2k saddles, 2k horses, and 5 mill gold' in compensation for Briann's troop losses while attempting to poach a kill which was reportedly a legion of scaled chargers.
I got in touch with Gijak Kafak and YOrk and they gave the following statements:
YOrk:
Hi there man
Im not too active lately so sorry for the late answer. Its a long story, some bugger called Briuan started occupying my kills in Keshalia. He killed quite a few of my skinners too. So i sent my army to clear it away, NS mailed me threatening and demanding some payments tpo compensate their losses but i sent them all to hell. After that they launched a campaign against me, taking my Keshalia towns.
That's pretty it.
Good hunting, Y.
Gijak Kafak:
Briann so a kill unattended and had been for well over a week. he had scouted it several times ( no i will not go back through thousands of igms to dredge up scout reports) never was anything there or the amount of things there change. He placed a army on it and sent harvestors. 6 hrs later YOrk saw him there and sent harvestors. Well as anyone with a brain knows troops on a sq will kill harvesters, which they did. YOrk then sent a army any killed Brianns. That is what the issue was and that was the issue. YOrk sent and you can see his copy and paste that his harvesters arrived on the square and where killed by Brianns army meaning Brianns army was there and in place. It is what I tried to explaining to YOrk. His alliance did not want to work it out and kicked him from their ranks. So we did what we had to do YOrk was unwilling to be reasonable and we deemed him unworthy of being a guest in the LC after he for no reason killed another army of Brianns 8 sqs from Brianns city. The first incident was 12sqs from Briann and 38 sq from YORk. If it was YOrks kill then that far from his city he should have had a army on it. OK there is the info you requested anything thing else in the matter is unworth my time Please do not igm me again
When I got in touch with Briann about getting hold of those scout reports or notification logs so I could have ~NS~'s full story, I was threatened with the sieging of both my account and the accounts that I was permitted to have in relation to the Small Alliance Tournament for the purposes of making flags by Gijak Kafak
YOrk has since had all of his Keshalian towns removed.
Gijak Kafak also threatened to report me if I published IGMs which can be found by clicking here.
It should be noted for those who attempt to suppress the publishing of IGMs on this site, in the past I have had problems with the DEVS in relation to the publishing of information related to the DEVS punishments of players. I was informed during these problems that as long as there was no link to articles breaching the rules in the forums, it was permitted by former Community Manager, GM Rikoo.
YOrk's sieging comes shortly after a list of unaligned players was sent to me by a source within ~NS~ indicating it is likely that ~NS~ are beginning a general purge of the Keshalia region, the list is as follows:
Kingly
Sir Richard
wvamorgan
tanker1
Khaleesi
SnugSnug
electrician
plumberman
Chieftan
Devicus
It has been confirmed to me that SnugSnug has reached alternative arrangements to prevent sieging. Others on the list have not managed this.
After a discussion with Gijak Kafak about this list, my source then informed me that ~NS~ were attempting to locate them through the use of IGM API keys. Reportedly, kicking was meant to occur yesterday morning however, to the best of my knowledge, no one has been kicked indicating the API key method was ineffective.
Author: Eowan
Sir Richard
wvamorgan
tanker1
Khaleesi
SnugSnug
electrician
plumberman
Chieftan
Devicus
It has been confirmed to me that SnugSnug has reached alternative arrangements to prevent sieging. Others on the list have not managed this.
After a discussion with Gijak Kafak about this list, my source then informed me that ~NS~ were attempting to locate them through the use of IGM API keys. Reportedly, kicking was meant to occur yesterday morning however, to the best of my knowledge, no one has been kicked indicating the API key method was ineffective.
Author: Eowan
Labels:
~NS~,
Briann,
Gijak Kafak,
Keshalia,
YOrk
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