GH Landclaim; Fact or Fiction?

On Monday the 18th of December, KLiPstA entered in GC and made a comment about how she wished the siege that had been placed on her town of Bikini Bottom would be hit by an NPC. KliPstA is a 3 town player and at the time was unaffiliated with an alliance.
A search of the herald siege page showed the siege belonged to Sabbathius (aka Bruce Lee), leader of GH.
When I IGMed Sabbathius and asked him why he was sieging a noob, he said the following:
'Taomist is ours, the city will be razed if not relocated in 2 weeks. I have recalled my siege.'

To me, it seems that saying 'Taomist is ours' would be a good indicator that he has a landclaim on the region. However, I could find no mention of this landclaim on either the forums or GH's profile or Sabbathius' profile. As a result of this, I decided to announce GH's landclaim for them in the forums.

For some reason, Sabbathius then appeared on the forum thread saying:
'We do not have a land claim, Eeowan is just a troll '

This does raise serious questions as to why the noob's town was being razed if there is no landclaim; its not within 10 squares of anyone's towns and the noob had no prior contact with Sabbathius. BillCipher probably summarised the conflict best on the forum post:
'She was the right to stay where she is because there is no land claim as put on the GH alliance profile. with that anyone cant tell someone where they can and can't have their towns especially since there is NOT  a land claim. She was sieged because she was "In GH land claim" But to reinforce it there is not a land claim. The IGM was because of the land claim. A warning then an attack was sent following the IGM.

It comes down to the fact that Golden Horde AND Sabbathius attacked a newb with NO REASON'

Neither Sabbathius or any other member of GH has confirmed whether the rejection of  a landclaim means that KLiPstA can stay where she is.

Since the conflict began, KLiPstA has moved into pTory.


-Eowan The Short

The Invisible Land Claim

Well known Land claiming alliance 'Roman Empire' appears to have an unlisted addition to their land claim, their original annouced expansion into coanhara in early April stated the following:

As to the aforementioned extension of our claim, effective immediately, Rome lays claim to the Southern portion of the desert of Coanhara which borders Westmarch. This claim encompasses all "desert" tiles in the area from -690x to -500x, and under coordinate -2040y. The Southernmost border will vary based on the natural border as desert tiles give way to more fertile land in Southern Coanhara. We also hereby complete our claim on Westmarch, claiming the easternmost section in addition to our earlier claims. Those whose cities already reside in these newly claimed areas are hereby granted a special exemption. These cities are also under Roman protection as per the new policy announced above. This is but the first of many planned benefits to be offered by Rome. As we continue to grow and prosper we will pass that property along to who reside within our land claim.

However, after the retirement of jtk310, it appears Patience King did not agree, as he continues to declare the entire desert as part of the RE land claim, on september 19, a player disput
ing this forced him to rewrite his land claim, it now states the following:

As to the aforementioned extension of our claim, effective immediately, Rome lays claim to the Southern and northern portion of the desert of Coanhara which borders Westmarch. This claim encompasses all "desert" tiles in the area from -690x to -500x, and under coordinate -2040y -579 2011 , -638 -1964 , -549 -1879 , -514 -1883 , -497 -1962 .

However RE continues to enforce thier claim, even over 20 sqaures away from it, when asked for his reason for doing so, alliance leader Patience King qouted the following section:

This claim encompasses all "desert" tiles

Any attempt to point out the rest of the listed claim has the person simply declared a 'troll' and summarily removed.

On an unrelated note, The Guilds former leadership is still waiting on its 119 million gold payment from patience king, for goods traded.